5 years ago#1
newsgirl
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A friend claims that John Lennon wasn't a great guitar player and that George taught him how to play. He went on to say that it was George & Paul who were the true musicians in the Beatles. I'm not so sure about that claim but he seems to know a LOT about the Beatles, especially their early careers. He did concede that Paul & John wrote the many of their songs as a team but that Paul worked most of them out on piano (musically) while both Paul & John worked together on the lyrics. So *did* George really teach John how to play?

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5 years ago#2
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Your friend is wrong.

John was regarded as one of the most important Rythmn guitarists in Rock history. He also played lead guitar on several of their songs ... ( double digits )

Just about every big or 'legendary' Beatle guitar-riff came from John. ( 'Day Tripper', 'I Feel Fine', 'Hey Bulldog', 'Revolution', 'I Want You / She's So Heavy', 'Everybody's Got Something To Hide', etc. )

His acoustic guitar style ( 'Norweigan Wood', 'I'll Be Back', 'Help', 'I'm Only Sleeping', 'Girl', 'A Day In The Life', 'You've Got To Hide Your Love Away', 'Across The Universe', etc. ) was also very influential.

He also did their finger-picking based songs ( 'Dear Prudence', 'Julia', 'Sun King' ); [ try playing John's: 'Out The Blue' sometime ...... not easy ]

John Lennon was a big, big part of the whole 'Beatles sound'. It's a good sound too ..... 'All My Loving', 'She's A Woman', for example, were both - John's guitar styling.

'Ask Eric Clapton; -he- thinks I can 'play' .....' -John Lennon, 1970 - on his guitar playing......

True. George taught both John and Paul guitar.

George was the most advanced guitar player at the time they all met. He knew more chords and could play solos .. at a time when both John and Paul were just 'basic-rythmn' players.

Pure nonsense.

The most sophicated Beatles instrumental work ... may just be Lennon's: 'Dear Prudence', 'I Want You / She's So Heavy', 'And Your Bird Can Sing', and also 'The End' ( in which all three of them play guitar solos ).

Lennon wrote the music to the band's most harmonically complex music such as: 'If I Fell', 'This Boy', 'Girl', 'Because', 'I Am The Walrus', 'And Your Bird Can Sing', 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds', 'Strawberry Fields Forver', etc.

His songs often applied the largest number of chords ( ' Julia' ) or the most unusual use of chords ( 'I Want You / She's So Heavy' ).

Pure nonsense.

Many Beatles songs were primarily John's alone or Paul's alone.

John wrote to the music to the songs that are associated with him. Paul did not 'write or work-out .... the music for him'

Lennon & McCartney collaborated in different ways - there was no one set formula including -no- collaboration whatsoever.

Lennon was not ... simply a 'lyric writer' - that is bogus information.

Yesour friend is wrong.

John was regarded as one of the most important Rythmn guitarists in Rock history. He also played lead guitar on several of their songs ... ( double digits )

Just about every big or 'legendary' Beatle guitar-riff came from John. ( 'Day Tripper', 'I Feel Fine', 'Hey Bulldog', 'Revolution', 'I Want You / She's So Heavy', 'Everybody's Got Something To Hide', etc. )

His acoustic guitar style ( 'Norweigan Wood', 'I'll Be Back', 'Help', 'I'm Only Sleeping', 'Girl', 'A Day In The Life', 'You've Got To Hide Your Love Away', 'Across The Universe', etc. ) was also very influential.

He also did their finger-picking based songs ( 'Dear Prudence', 'Julia', 'Sun King' ); [ try playing John's: 'Out The Blue' sometime ...... not easy ]

John Lennon was a big, big part of the whole 'Beatles sound'. It's a good sound too ..... 'All My Loving', 'She's A Woman', for example, were both - John's guitar styling.

'Ask Eric Clapton; -he- thinks I can 'play' .....' -John Lennon, 1970 - on his guitar playing......

True. George taught both John and Paul guitar.

George was the most advanced guitar player at the time they all met. He knew more chords and could play solos .. at a time when both John and Paul were just 'basic-rythmn' players.

Pure nonsense.

The most sophicated Beatles instrumental work ... may just be Lennon's: 'Dear Prudence', 'I Want You / She's So Heavy', 'And Your Bird Can Sing', and also 'The End' ( in which all three of them play guitar solos ).

Lennon wrote the music to the band's most harmonically complex music such as: 'If I Fell', 'This Boy', 'Girl', 'Because', 'I Am The Walrus', 'And Your Bird Can Sing', 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds', 'Strawberry Fields Forver', etc.

His songs often applied the largest number of chords ( ' Julia' ) or the most unusual use of chords ( 'I Want You / She's So Heavy' ).

Pure nonsense.

Many Beatles songs were primarily John's alone or Paul's alone.

John wrote to the music to the songs that are associated with him. Paul did not 'write or work-out .... the music for him'

Lennon & McCartney collaborated in different ways - there was no one set formula including -no- collaboration whatsoever.

Lennon was not ... simply a 'lyric writer' - that is bogus information.

Yes ... but John knew some guitar already ... just as Paul did.

They all progressed together. Lennon was less advanced initially as a player at age 16 or 17 ... but by the time the Beatles were actually to the point of recording real music, Lennon had developed into their most aggressive 'rock' player. For example, the lead guitar solo for 'You Can't Do That' was played by John, the lead guitar work for 'Revolution' was played by John.

Throughout, Harrison remained the most technically skilled soloist ... you can hear this easily on 'The End' where all three of them take turns playing solos. George is the soaring middle-guitar. John is the aggressive, distorted third guitar.

- Derek

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5 years ago#3
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He also did their finger-picking based songs ( 'Dear Prudence', 'Julia', 'Sun King' ); [ try plae also did their finger-picking based songs ( 'Dear Prudence', 'Julia', 'Sun King' ); [ try playing John's: 'Out The Blue' sometime ...... not easy ]

After Donovan showed him how.

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5 years ago#4
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As far as the rhythm component of playign guitar, and Lennon had rhythm, Elvis said that you are either born with rhythm or not.

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5 years ago#5
mysticwizard
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No. Next question, please.

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5 years ago#6
Merlyn
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1. you're friend is a moron.

2. same as 1

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5 years ago#7
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Not so thinly-disguised troll.

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5 years ago#8
Hedgehog
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I think you're right on all acounts.

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5 years ago#9
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Is that John on harmonica on 'Love Me Do'?

Heh. No electric tuners in the early dayz?

His sound was more of a rock sound that I can identify with. I can hear that edge on his Beatles tunes but not on his solo work. Maybe I haven't listened to enough of it.

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4 years ago#10
Metal Up Your ****!
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yeah but elvis sucked the big one, stole the black mans music and made himself the king of it, but i guess thats how you become king of something you dont own, you steal it .

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4 years ago#11
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I totally disagree with you. Elvis created his own style taking from all sorts of music and coorporating it into one different style.

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4 years ago#12
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Julia, his mother, taught John ukele and banjo chords which he used when he played in The Quarrymen, at that time he couldn't play "guitar". It was Paul who taught John to play guitar and no doubt Paul taught George a lot too as he was older and far more experienced musically than any of them.

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