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Hey guys , new boy here ! I have a couple of questions maybe you guys can help? First , I play a fairly loud randall 4/12 cab with a Les Paul. In tight gigs I really like the sound I have (standing fairly close to my amp) but i,ve noticed lately in larger clubs or outdoors especially with a deep stage that the farther from my amp I get The least I like the sound. ( from amp to my ears , The house sound is still great and is miked ). Anybody know how to tighten that up. Monitors / angled boxes ? wish I could keep the close sound I get but have it farther away . make sense ? Second is a talk box question ....... I own a rocktron Banshee . Works fine by itself , but when I hook it up with other stomp boxes it doesnt work right ? Can it be hooked up INBETWEEN my GFX8 and my cry baby? I swear it did once but it doesnt seem to work anymore. Does the " to amp" output on the pedal have to go directly to my amp? or can I just chain it in ? Sorry I like to talk ,,,,,,,,,,,thanx for your help in advance ! John

Hi
I can't help you on this personally but I will ask around for you...

HI Joker.
Sorry this has taken me so long.
I wrote to Guitar Player Dave Issacs and this is what he replied:

t's true that it's very gratifying to feel all that air moving from the cab, but sound disperses....that's just the nature of things. If he likes the house sound I'd recommend putting some guitar in the monitors so the close-mic'd sound covers more of the stage.

yea I was kinda figuring that but thanx for the help , I,ll try that out !!

Let us know how it turned out.

Did an out door show Friday night put a different angle on the cab and gave it more sustain in my preamp than normal and it worked out pretty well. Wettin the monitors helps also! It does the job , Thanx John

Hey joker,
As a fellow Banshee owner, you made me curious, so I'm waiting for an answer from Rocktron, as I mentioned it to the tech support. I'll let you know what they tell me!

Since the Banshee has a preamp, you might want to be careful putting the "To Amp" output to a Line Level input (as your crybaby), so you don't damage anything.

If you would connect them inline, I'd guess Guitar> GFX8> Crybaby> Banshee(To Amp)> Amp, would be ok, without damage risk.

Just waiting to see, for sure...

Reply from Rocktron, regarding the Banshee talkbox (what everyone should know! ):

The Banshee can not hurt other equipment as long as you don't connect
the speaker output to anything other then a speaker. It can be placed
anywhere in your line/instrument level signal path just according to
what you want coming into the Banshee to be included in the talkbox
sound. For instance; if you what the delay from your pedal going into
the talkbox it must be placed before the Banshee.

The biggest confusion or questions we get about the Banshee is the fact
that no sound comes out of your amp while the talkbox effect is engaged
all of the sound comes up thru the tube into your mouth and back out
into a microphone just as micing a singer. No sound comes out of your
amp at all. Many inexperienced users believe they are talking into the
tube to change the sound. This is not the case. The sound comes out of
the tube and you use your checks, lips, tongue and teeth to change the
envelope of the incoming signal to more sound like your instrument is
talking. You aren't even singing or talking at all (while you can). Any
low level signal can be used into the Banshee, bass guitar, keyboards,
guitar, anything we even have lots of DJ's scratching LP's in a Banshee
to create unique sounds.

Once you completely understand how the Banshee works it is easy to see
no harm can come to your equipment.

Other and most older style talkboxs required a separate amplifier to
drive the horn driver at 8 ohms within the talkbox. This meant you
needed a additional guitar amp or other amplifier (keyboard or whatever)
to run your talkbox when engaged. Many clever schemes were made up to
disconnect your amplifiers speaker and connect it to the driver within
the talkbox when the talkbox was engaged. If an impedance miss-match
happened your favorite tube amp could be damaged. For instance if your
tube amp was set for 16 ohms and the talkbox driver was at 8 ohms this
additional load could damage the amps output transformer causing
expensive repairs. Because the Banshee already has its own built in 6
watt power amp your amplifier is not even used when the Banshee is
engaged. No sound comes out of your amp at all, it all comes up thru the
tube and into your mouth. I have heard of people rattling fillings and
all sorts of stories. As you can imagine if you connected your 100 watt
Marshall output to a old style talkbox and all of its power blew into
your mouth as you struggled to bite onto the tube to keep it in your
mouth you could probably blow any tooth out. Can you imagine putting
your mouth around your 4 x 12 cabinet. Just walking by it blows your
pants legs lets alone focusing that energy into a 1/2" tube and then
biting down on it like bending a water hose to stop the water. I'll bet
it could blow your fillings out. None of this is the case when operating
a Banshee.

Hope this make your talkbox experience more clear.

Cheers
Jim

o.k this is the deal ........I,ve been messin with the talk box and seems that the diapraghm inside was jammed , after poking it a few times its worked perfectly! No blown fillings !! lol
you guys are great ..............talk soon !thanx John